Oil Prices Vs. Gas Prices - a Disconnect? A Conspiracy?

Submitted by Warren on Mon, 10/30/2006 - 11:12am.

Editor's Note: Its Election Day, and October average oil prices are out, so I've updated the table below.

So you've probably noticed that gas prices are dropping a lot, and that it seemed to start around a month ago. If you're like me, always looking for cause-and-effect relationships in stuff, you might be wondering what the cause of this drop in gas prices is. Initially, I assumed it was that crude oil prices were raising and falling, and that gas was following suit.

Being a computer guy, I keep a gas price/mileage/economy journal in my Treo with a neat little program that calculates all that stuff automatically -- just enter in the odometer mileage, amount of gas pumped to fill up the tank, and the total price paid for the fill-up, and it does the rest. It can easily break down the price per gallon of gas, and Excel can easily average those values to get the average price of gas over a month.

Crude oil price statistics are all over the map, mostly because the price of a barrel of crude oil changes depending on what sort of oil it is (where it comes from), but it seems that different reporting organizations use different criteria too. (When you hear "Oil is $60 a barrel today" on your local 24-hour newsradio station, you have to wonder where they get that data and what sort of oil they're talking about.) Anyway, the Illinois Oil & Gas Association, of all places, has a pretty nice history of average crude oil prices for a given month, and though I don't know exactly what type of oil they're pricing, I'm going to assume they're using the same type and data month after month.

So this weekend I put these data points together, and got the following table:

Month Price per Gallon of Gas
Price per Barrel of Oil
 Jan $2.52 $58.30
 Feb $2.69 $54.65
 Mar $2.77 $55.42
 Apr $3.16 $62.50
 May $3.53 $62.94
 Jun $3.42 $62.85
 Jul $3.40 $66.28
 Aug $3.27 $64.93
 Sep $2.93 $55.73
 Oct $2.59 $50.98

And after seeing this, what is my gut reaction?

Well, between January and March, Oil prices actually dropped around $3 a barrel, yet Gas prices rose about $.25 a gallon. Between April and May, Oil rose a mere $.44 a barrel, yet Gas rose $.37 a gallon.

September Oil prices are around the same as February, yet gas was $.24 a gallon more per gallon.

Overall though, the general trend seems to be that Gas prices generally follow Oil prices in the grand scheme of things. It seems, however, that there is something of a disconnect on a micro-level, where the small fluctuations of the price of each don't seem to follow each other. Hmmm. I guess I am a little suspicious of this, but I can't put my finger on why.

It has been suggested/reported (by the New York Times, The Washington Post, and several bloggers in high places) that large investment hedge funds are (temporarily) pulling out of oil futures, which is lowering the price of crude oil, (and hence gas), at the request of the Bush administration, so the voting public won't be so pissed off at the (Republican) incumbents in Congress and elsewhere. If it weren't for the fact that this scheme requires cogent thought on the part of the President, this makes total sense to me.

Anyone have any other thoughts?

Um...your chart doesn't follow your mentioned source...

#8636 On Thu, 10/23/2008 5:55am Anonymous said,

...for the data...price per barrel is way too low...

They match his source. this

#8653 On Tue, 10/28/2008 10:26am Anonymous said,

They match his source. this was posted in 2006, you are probably looking at 2008 prices

Gasoiline and Oil Pricing Trend

#8635 On Wed, 10/22/2008 10:48am Anonymous said,

I put a post at www.4squarehi.com/blog that illustrates the price per barrel of oil and price per gallon of gas. We should be paying about $2.00 per gallon right now.

oil prices

#8630 On Thu, 10/16/2008 4:51am Anonymous said,

Ladies and Gentlemen. Oil companies are to blame for this wild ride but here is the real reason for gas, not crude prices. The ability or small capacity of our refineries to meet local demand is not there. We have millions of gallons of crude sitting in North Dakota now without any real capacity to move or refine it. This crude oil reserve is FOUR times larger than the middle east has combined. We do not need more imported oil! We need more well distributed refineries!

Oil Prices vs Gas Prices

#8609 On Tue, 09/16/2008 9:17am Anonymous said,

The oil companies have a great method for munipulating gas prices. They raise the price of oil to increase the price of gas at the pump until the consumer cries for help. At that point oil prices back down and gasoline prices drop back to a new high. The supply and demand arguments are nonsense because in the end, the oil companies have record revenues and that only occurs when you collect the money

oil vs. gas

#8619 On Mon, 10/06/2008 1:17pm Anonymous said,

did you know that the oil companies profit margin on a gallon of gas is roughly 1/4 of the government's total "take" in taxes? tell me, where should the oil companies invest their profits?

in refineries?...nope...congress and the environmentalists haven't allowed that in 30 years

the problem is FALSE DEMAND created by speculators. take them out of the picture...and oil is back under $40 in 6 months.

wonder if anyone has a

#8565 On Fri, 08/08/2008 8:20am Anonymous said,

wonder if anyone has a current chart of gas prices vs oil prices? I'm guessing the price of gas today will not reflect the drop in oil prices and will not compare to the last time Oil was at $118 a barrel

chart of prices

#8625 On Sun, 10/12/2008 7:32am Anonymous said,

http://www.vermontgasprices.com/retail_price_chart.aspx

OIL PRICE VS. GAS PRICE

#8601 On Wed, 09/10/2008 7:40pm Anonymous said,

I WAS LOOKING THIS TYPE OF INFO, AND I REALIZE THAT I'M NOT ALONE. THERE IS A HUGE DISCREPANCY BETWEEN THESE TWO PRICES. QUESTION IS: IF OIL PRICE IS DROPPING, WHY GAS PRICE REMAINS THE SAME? GOVERNMENT SEEMS NOT TO CARE, AND THERE IS NO ONE PROTECTING THE CONSUMER. WE HAVE TO MAKE A LOT OF NOISE. USE MEDIA, RADIO, TV OR INTERNET TO NOTICE THIS RIP OFF.

Gas prices

#8626 On Sun, 10/12/2008 7:52am Anonymous said,

Oil is traded as a "Futures" commodity. What oil is bought for today may reflect 1-2 months down the road.Oil is not purchased as it is unloaded in the Gulf of Mexico. It is purchased while still in the ground. That being said, a very broad explanation is imagine for a minute that you have purchased 1000 barrels of oil for 100 $ a barrel.(gas price 1 $ a gal.) Tomorrow you purchase 1000 barrels for 110 $ a barrel. It all comes over on the same boat. You have mixed values of oil entering the system. It averages 1.05 a gal of gas. When the tanker delivers the gas to the station, regardless of the pump price, they have just changed the VALUE of the gas already in the ground.Thats why it goes up so fast and down so slow. A barrel of oil is 42 gal. So figure you fill your tank,you have just used the better part of a barrel of oil after refining. Of course the by products of the refining is used as well, but if all you got out a barrel of oil was gasoline, we would pay a lot more.

gas prices

#8604 On Thu, 09/11/2008 1:24pm Anonymous said,

Oil came down to 106.00 a barrel yesterday. Gas went up .30 a gallon. The media, radio and TV aren't going to help us. They are afraid their advertising dollars will be pulled. Short of a revolution all we can do is never put the same person in office two times in a row, stop buying except necessities, and stay home and enjoy watching our country go to hell thanks to businesses going overseas and AMERICANS buying foreign products. Sure we can blame NAFTA, GAT and all the other trade policies, but it is WE THE PEOPLE who is buying that crap.

i agree completely

#8628 On Tue, 10/14/2008 6:31am Anonymous said,

i agree completely

You got it

#8611 On Thu, 09/18/2008 6:42am Anonymous said,

Our economy is going to hell in a hand bag. People cannot afford American made stuff because big business is too greedy. If the government would step in and drop gas prices back to $2.00/gal the economy would be set to get back on track!!! But like you said we have to just set back and watch the idiots run this country in the ground.

chinese handbags

#8629 On Thu, 10/16/2008 3:59am Anonymous said,

yes and unfortuneately that handbag is made in china

government?

#8620 On Mon, 10/06/2008 1:22pm Anonymous said,

what country do you live in? the government has NO POWER to artificially reduce prices for anything !!

as for "idiots running the country"...I'd agree...so then let's go vote out every single incumbent who's running...with a few simple questions...

1. have they EVER voted FOR a tax increase...if yes...then vote 'em out.

2. did they vote for the $700B bailout of the folks who loaned money to people who couldn't pay...if yes...then vote 'em out

You'll find that there are democrats AND republicans who would be sent home. We do have the power...we just don't take responsibility for it.

I concurr...

#8624 On Sat, 10/11/2008 12:05pm Anonymous said,

We, as Americans, do have the power...But we don't use it. As long as we have two cars in our mortgaged garage, we seem not to care what the Government is doing. It's all smoke and mirrors...

vote them out

#8623 On Fri, 10/10/2008 2:20pm Anonymous said,

I have a better idea... Lets impeach Bush and Channey

crude / gas price ratio

#8608 On Mon, 09/15/2008 5:03am Anonymous said,

Some of this can be explianed by load adveraging.
Buy a tank at $3.00 use half then buy a 1/2 tank at $2.00 the value/cost of the tank of fuel is now $2.5 so the owner nust sell at $2.5 to make a break even. (I know these are exstreme examples but it illistrates the point) This explains some but not all of the data.
yes that right, the consumer is picking up the slack in the system

Barrel Price vs. Gas Price

#8602 On Thu, 09/11/2008 7:29am Anonymous said,

I wonder the same thing they are so quick to rise the price of gas when barrel price goes up a small amount.But when barrel price has dropped $47 we have not seen any drop in gas price.It seems like for every $5 a barrel it goes up gas goes up .10 a gallon but when gas drops $47 we see no drop in gallon price?Who do we contact that will listen it's seem like Bush and his people are making so much money off this they don't car about American's.
WHY AREN'T THIS OIL PEOPLE NAILED FOR THIS GOUGING IF ANY OTHER COMPANY TIED TO DO THIS THEY WOULD BE DESTROYED BY THE GOV. ARE OIL COMPANY'S ABOVE THEY LAW CAN THEY DO ANYTHING THEY WANT?

You Can blame hurricane IKE

#8606 On Fri, 09/12/2008 4:41am Anonymous said,

You Can blame hurricane IKE for part or this. Oil refineries have shut down in Texas and are gas reserves sre dropping.. Supply and Quantity demand are the true forces at work.

i could believe

#8631 On Thu, 10/16/2008 12:56pm Anonymous said,

i could believe this(hurricanes) is the reason for gas to go up except that the oil companies still post profits of 40 billion dollars

hurricanes

#8632 On Thu, 10/16/2008 1:00pm Anonymous said,

it seems that only the last couple of hurricanes have caused the price to go up and what about the ones from the 90's and even the 80's they never effected the price of gas are the ones we get now special

i agree i was thinking that

#8593 On Sun, 08/17/2008 2:48pm Anonymous said,

i agree i was thinking that the other day

Gas price and current oil price

#8566 On Fri, 08/08/2008 9:06am Anonymous said,

So right at this moment, oil is 116.30 per barrel according to Bloomberg. So why is fuel still $4.11 here in Northern California? Why are not below $4.00??
See this comment from an April entry:

OK...It's April 23, 2008 and barrel price is $118.00 >
and pump price is a rediculious $3.65 a gallon. Diesel is cheaper to make and yet costs MORE than gasoline....what up with that?

Diesel prices

#8603 On Thu, 09/11/2008 1:04pm Anonymous said,

Yes diesel is a by product of gasoline and cheeper to make, but more of it is used today because of all the semi's on the road. Remember supply and demand. Back when they first came out with unleaded,we had to pay more because there wasn't demand. Now we pay more because of too much demand. It works both ways for oil companies and Washington, and why aren't the truckers yelling? They are being subsidized by our government. Have you gotten a check lately for 6-10 cents for ever gallon of fuel you purchase? I'm not talking company drivers, they don't buy their own fuel anyway.I own two diesel pickup trucks and haven't gotten a check yet.

Diesel prices vs gas prices

#8614 On Mon, 09/22/2008 4:16pm Anonymous said,

Every gallon of Diesel has a higher Federal & State tax on it. At one time the trucking industry paid a higher road use tax now most of that tax is added into the price of diesel. Farmers can buy tax free diesel for non highway use, I think it is free of both Federal and state highway taxes. In some states they must then pay a sales tax on the diesel.

then premium should be cheapest

#8613 On Sun, 09/21/2008 4:55pm Anonymous said,

If supply and demand is main driver of gas prices. Then premium ought to be cheapest right now.

Most people by regular unleaded.

But anyway.

Its funny that gas is so cheap in Texas right now compared to Atlanta. The storm was in Texas not here.

Why do prices fluctuate so much from city to city. It seems it would be basically the same in every city and state.

I can understand if a little town is miles away from civilization or something. But town to town just up and down the interstate, prices should not vary so much.

Diesel

#8605 On Thu, 09/11/2008 9:53pm Anonymous said,

is now more expensive to make because of the ultra low sulfur properties that are required for pollution guidelines.

Supply and Demand

#8554 On Wed, 08/06/2008 11:13am Anonymous said,

Economics 101: the law of Supply and Demand only works in a free market. Oil and gasoline is not a free market! It is a cartel.

cartel...

#8621 On Mon, 10/06/2008 1:26pm Anonymous said,

a cartel, mind you, which has the full backing of governments all over the world. particularly, here in the US where liberal politicians allowed speculators to leverage 50% margins to invest in oil futures, creating false demand...enriching the cartels as they sell their raw product all over the world.

BAN speculation in the energy markets...no more margins !!

gas prices vs. oil prices

#8553 On Wed, 08/06/2008 11:10am Anonymous said,

I have noticed that gas prices jump immediately after a rise in oil prices, yet there is usually a delay in gas prices going down when oil prices drop. If gas companies use the excuse of oil going up to raise prices, then they are pricing the gas that is already refined (Last In First Out). Then the excuse for gas not dropping as a result of oil dropping is because it takes a while for the oil to be refined (First In First Out). Either they use LIFO or FIFO, but they can't use both!

Barrel price vs. Pump price ?

#8426 On Wed, 04/23/2008 7:37am Anonymous said,

OK...It's April 23, 2008 and barrel price is $118.00 >
and pump price is a rediculious $3.65 a gallon. Diesel is cheaper to make and yet costs MORE than gasoline....what up with that?

If you don't think there is some funny business going on, more than likely GREED, your head in a hole.

This needs to stop....somehow...

Crude vs Gas

#8495 On Mon, 06/16/2008 3:12am Anonymous said,

Yah. Crude is now in the mid $130 a barrel. Investors trying to hedge against inflation has caused the massive spike in crude. Here's how it works - you have to buy oil by the 1,000 barrels. You buy it at say, $118 a barrel in April, then in May the idea is that you sell the oil to at the current price to make a profit while the economy is on the fritz and inflation is par. Look, the market needs to work the way it was designed.

I just think oil needs to be taken off of the market as a commodity. It's not necessary. Just don't believe everything that the ignorant media tells you. Gas prices are so high because oil prices are so high. It's no more complicated than that. Sure, supply and demand plays a part, but we're so far beyond supply and demand being an issue that the argument is mute. If you look at it this way - every time oil rises, gas rises. Bush took office in 2000 - oil was $10-$20 a barrel. Now, it's $130-$140 a barrel.

You're paying for someones stock fund. Period.

LOL dumb liberal trying to

#8597 On Tue, 08/19/2008 11:17am Anonymous said,

LOL dumb liberal trying to pin the oil prices on bush, are u kidding me go watch Nancy Pelosi's Speech on youtube and look at the price of oil in the top left about 60$ a barrel.

http://www.inflationdata.com/inflation/Inflation_Rate/Historical_Oil_Prices_Table.asp

oil wasnt even close to 10$ during 2000

be nice..

#8622 On Mon, 10/06/2008 1:29pm Anonymous said,

he's not a dumb liberal...just a blind one.

the template says "bush is stupid"...yet he's the evil genius in charge of all things oil.

mr. liberal...it was your fellow liberals who have stopped US exploration (which would increase supply) and who stopped US refinery expansion (which would reduce the price of gas)...AND...who decided to allow false demand to enter the market through speculation and margin.

who should run for president

#8617 On Fri, 09/26/2008 7:14am Anonymous said,

Maybe some one like use should run for president? No ties with the government lobbiest. But a blue collar worker who knows what it feels like to struggle to put food on the table every night. And to tell there kids no cause had to put gas in the car. Hey vote for me in the next round.

oil vs gas prices

#8453 On Wed, 05/07/2008 4:59am Anonymous said,

ALL IN ALL IT IS PURE GREED! GREED! GREED!

Oil VS Gas Prices

#8607 On Fri, 09/12/2008 7:29am Anonymous said,

You are absolutely right. This is why the government does not want cheap oil fron Venezuela. If the market were flooded with cheap oil, the "OIL CARTELS" would lose billions. I have been told that the Alberta Tar Sands have enough oil to provide Canada with oil for over 400 years. Why in Gods name do we not refine it ourselves and provide for our own instead of buying from Saudi Arabia? I think it's because the oil companies make more money selling our oil and buying it cheaper from them so they can gouge us a little more.

Oil and economics Election cycles

#8331 On Mon, 02/04/2008 6:51am Anonymous said,

I believe that manipulations in the market occur in and around election cycles including oil. Around election cycles lobbyist have more leverage during these periods and I believe it works like this:

Pull back economics a bit, support a candidate, candidate promises better economics, gets elected, lobbyist and corporations loosen grip, candidate looks like a hero, lobbyist and corporations reap the rewards for the next 4 years or 8 years.

Id like to a change in the White House myself. I do not want to see a Bush or a Clinton in the White house again, its been 20 years. I also would not like to see the Dodgers or Red Soxs in the World series and the Patriots in the Superbowl ( even though they did loose).

look- huge glitch

#6089 On Mon, 11/13/2006 6:41pm Anonymous said,

obviously the price of oil per gallon has ranged from $1.00USD to $3.00 during the last ten years. so moving from 1 dollar to 3 dollars is a 300% increase, right? what is the cost of oil per barrel? over the last 10 years it hasn't increased more than 150%. do you not see the inconsistency? obviously something is wrong. where is your money going?

analysts on tv aren't really experts on stocks, or anything else for that matter. they can't make accurate or timely analysis or they'd be sitting in their mega yachts in the bahamas stacking up their poker chips, not on your television screens- thinking for you.

You analysis is incorrect.

#8552 On Wed, 08/06/2008 9:57am Anonymous said,

You analysis is incorrect. The price of oil per gallon has gone from $20 to $120 which is an increase of 500% not 150%. Don't get me wrong I think something is fishy in the gas business but if you don't do the math correctly no one will listen to you.

Glitch

#7832 On Fri, 09/07/2007 12:41pm Anonymous said,

I think it is safe to say the the entire gas industry is a cartel which is ultimately controlled by the government. Regardless of current/future oil prices are the gas price is controlled by the government. If they did not control the prices, our gas would be MUCH more costly than we pay today and we would all pay it. Whatever the inconsistency, I'm glad they intervene.

Oil and Gas Prices

#8229 On Wed, 11/14/2007 9:36am Anonymous said,

"I think it is safe to say the the entire gas industry is a cartel which is ultimately controlled by the government. "

It may be safe to say it but it doesn't mean it's true. Whose government anyway? The United States? Saudi Arabia? Venezuela? OPEC members frequently cheat. High prices just accelerate adoption of alternatives, shales, sands and the like. If I am going to control prices I will do it at levels that people habituate to slowly so they don't start crying for intervention.

Gas prices follow their own supply and demand curve due to refinery capacity, and consumer demand. There many formulations of Gasoline depending on EPA requirements in the US. For example there are 5 different formulations between Saint Louis, MO and Chicago IL IIRC for regular unleaded.

Regarding Hedge Funds, since their public donation records indicate fairly balanced giving, (they're hedging after all) it would be to early to say they are doing a purely partisan favour without additional evidence. Oil prices have reached ridiculous levels in no small part due to dollar inflation and I would suspect many bright traders will use each new high to unwind their positions.

How come the price of crude

#8310 On Thu, 12/20/2007 11:09am Anonymous said,

How come the price of crude has been rising so sharply since June 07 and yet the trendline for the price of gasoline has been declining? If you were to approximate the trend of crude, the price of gas on 12/20/07 should be somewhere in the $4 range. I see this as a sharp departure for the relationship between gas and oil over the past 6 years.